Original Intent

The original intent here was to have a dialogue, not a diatribe of ridicule and personal attacks. PLEASE. Thanks to jc, Phil and now Steve for avoiding personal attacks and ridicule. As for those anonymous out there, PLEASE! We can attack another's view, but not them, please. A "moronic view "is far better than saying "moron." Even "idiotic view" is far better than saying "idiot."

The dialogue is helping me understand others' views on this and better understand, and even change, my own.

Thank you jc, Phil and Steve.